Which study?

Uh,__________, you remember that paperwork that was faxed to me. Yes, it's from C&M; Laboratories Int'l.

Oh, the Bob Musack thing?

Okay, well I just kind of sit back and chuckle and let all those guys fight it out. Bob Musack knows the product as well as anybody. He represents the Clark Mineral Company, the ones that actually have the original product that mines and produces the Mineral Toddy for us and they have been around for 70 years, since 1926. Bob Musack is part of their marketing arm and by him knocking these other guys, it saves us from having to do it.

Now when I was with you for a couple of days, Doc, you mentioned that the content within that product, there was something about that content that would force you never to endorse something like that, besides the fact that you only endorse Mineral Toddy.

Well, the New Vision product has honey in it which of course is a form of sugar. That cuts out 40% to 50% of the possible users. Everybody from people with low blood sugar problems, hypoglycemia, diabetes, depression, chronic fatigue syndrome, candida, kids with ADD, ADHD learning disabilities, dyslexia and so they cut out huge numbers of the market and it's just, I don't like putting sweeteners in something, a natural product, even if it is a natural sweetener like honey, you are actually altering the product, so...

That doesn't even fit into the description of what is needed?

Doc, it is not derived from a plant?

Now that I don't know. I know that their product is derived from a mining site somewhere in Arizona, near the Nevada border and I am not familiar with that product and I think this is what Bob Musack was alluding to. He is saying and he knows this product better than anybody, that the product they are using is mined from an inorganic seabed deposit as opposed to an organic, plant-derived material and I have been out to the Rockland mine many times. I have not been out to this mine and it belongs to a guy by the name of John Anderson and he has been selling a product in health food stores, I don't know 10-15 years. If I could remember the name of it, it comes in a clear, plastic bottle, looks like a whisky bottle with a long neck. .....................Mineral Rich?

Optimum, yes that's the one. And if you read the label it says it is made from a seabed of mineral deposit and if that is the same stuff that the...and they claim they are getting it from John Anderson so I would have to assume that it is the same stuff, then it in fact is not a plant derived organic product. It is made out of a seabed clay and so this is what Bob Musack was alluding to in the letter, he said he knows that product source very well and it is not plant derived and so he can say that. I just have never been out to the mine, haven't seen the material nor an analysis of it.

Are they able to put the inorganic minerals into a colloidal state?

Yeah, you actually can, you can put paint. Paint is actually a colloid. If you will look in the book in Chapter 11, Rare Earth's: Forbidden Cures, there is actually three types of mineral colloids. One is an inorganic colloid. It ranges from glacier milk, which is a real fine rock flour that is ground up by the glaciers, to these commercial products like colloidal silver. That is totally inorganic, it's a colloid, fine particles in suspension. It is a man-made product, colloidal silver, but it is in colloidal suspension and all colloidal means is it's a small particle size in suspension and all of the particles are negatively charged as opposed to minerals that go into solutions say like salt water, the salt divides up into the positive sodium and negative chloride so you have a positive and negative, but true colloids are all negative. The charges are all negative and so I don't know if I answered your question, But...

Hello, my name is Dr.___________ and I have had many years in preventive medicine. My practice...

Are you an MD., a D.A....

Yes, I am an MD. and I am retired now.

Okay, oh, you got smart and retired

Let me finish answering that question. Then, there are two types of organic colloids. One type of organic colloid has a lipid protein or a fatty protein coating on the mineral itself. And then, the ones that come out of plants are just a protein that is wrapped around a small mineral particle and that makes an organic colloid.

Then the T.J. Clark minerals are not in a colloid state. You receive, the laboratory receives the minerals and then puts them in a colloidal state?

No, they are colloids, they are from plants, they are in a colloidal state in plants.

So they are already in a colloidal state?

Yeah.

So, would say other products other than the T.J. Clark mineral products are quote, unquote synthetic?

There are a lot of synthetic ones out there, you know. If you look at colloidal silver, those are all synthetic.

And New Vision products would be considered both????

Uh no, it is probably a colloid but it is not an organically plant-derived colloid, it is made from seabed minerals according to Bob Musack, cuz he knows that deposit, I don't.

Okay, what I want to get to is if there is any concern that people have in reference to Dr. Wallach's relationship with MMV or us as people, as distributors, what I have been hearing lately is where is this guy going... (...Other person, not loud enough to hear)

I don't promote anything for New Vision so where are you coming off saying like...

(...not loud enough to hear, question about the letter?)

One of their distributors, who actually sent around the tape "Dead Doctors Don't Lie", put my name on the return address and we had to go after him legally. So, you know just because they do stuff like that doesn't mean it's me agreeing to it. They're just very aggressive, sometimes on the edge and sometimes over the edge and when they pull their pants down to their knees and bend over and say sock it to me, they get it.

You know, you can't sue people for being stupid, but when they do things that are illegal, then we go after them.

Okay, I think that maybe what he was talking about is, "Are you the spokesperson for MMV and what relationship do you have with MMV?"

Okay, well basically...Let's start out with my relationship with Eagle. I'm the second largest stockholder in Soaring Eagle Ventures. Peter Holiday and I were the two original purchasers of the company. Let's see, I own approximately 30% of the stock in the company. I am the largest distributor. Out of the 40,000 distributors that are on paper and about 27,000 active distributors, 20,000 of them are in my downline. So, it would be kind of stupid of me to do anything to aid and abet a competitor, right? Secondly, because of technical reasons your relationship to me is actually through Zannadu, as far as Eagle products go, your relation to me through MMV is for primarily books and tapes because of legal reasons and FDA rulings and all this, that and the other, you can't have books and tapes and things that claim benefit from vitamins and minerals being sold by the same company that sells minerals, and so we split it up. There are all kinds of reasons, but that is the basic reason, MMV and my relationship is primarily with books and tapes and my relationship with you guys for the Toddy products is through Zannadu Am I right about that Jerry?

Yes, that is absolutely right. We have it divided in two, and just so everybody knows that, Soaring Eagle does not promote or sell or distribute any of Doc's books and tapes at all. So, we do that, you know, separately through MMV. But, also understand that we are not the only ones that promote those books and tapes.

Oh, heavens no ..... I have people who buy 5,000 books a week, and so although you guys are doing a great job, it's going to take you a week or two to get up to the level that some other people are doing. Listen, tools are probably the most important business building thing there is and when you get up to moving 5,000 books a week, you are going to have a huge personal business.

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